IGNIS ICO Report 5

Is your bid order in place? Popcorn ready?

Tomorrow, on Thursday, Aug 31st between 18:45 – 19:15 UTC, the last batch of Round 2 in the IGNIS ICO is offered. That’s the last of 4 batches, each counting 20M JLRDA tokens. The price is 0.55 NXT per JLRDA – the token that will swap 1:1 for IGNIS tokens when the Ardor Genesis block is created in November 2017. Each and every single batch until now has been sold out in 1 block.

For your reading pleasure, fellow Nxters, let’s quickly touch base with the nxtchat.slack Round 2 experience:

1st batch:

amsi [8:53 AM]
now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

martis [8:53 AM]

gabriel [8:53 AM]

strophy [8:55 AM]
lol that went fast

josenxt [8:56 AM]
39,703.93 fee in that block? :scream:

lordcameltoe [8:57 AM]
how will I know if my transaction worked?

peter2615 [8:57 AM]
you wait… until next block, to see which offers got filled

As demand is a lot higher than the supply of JLRDA, and as the crowdsale is being held on a decentralized platform, executed under the rules of the blockchain, there were investors that didn’t get lucky. The rules are clear though and people’s different attempts to take advantage of them in the lottery, are transparent as well.

Logan summarizes:

You have to be in the same block, as the JLRDA TX. The capacity of one block is 255 TX. Higher fees are priorized to get in the block and the JLRDA TX will have a fee of 5 NXT. Thats the information you need to make a decision. But there is no right or wrong. Depends on what other people are doing.

riker [10:43 PM]

What happened in practice today was that one account NXT-GJE7-KWDJ-SFWJ-APQ6S tried to game the system by submitting many transactions with 5.2 NXT fee. I’m not sure what was his calculation. What it did is that it delayed the Jelurida transaction to the next block. But we anticipated this in advance and double checked that this does not provide any advantage to anyone.

bitcoinpaul [3:36 PM]

what can we learn from that?
dont bloat the chain with high fees, guys.


It’s a game theory problem; if everyone submits their transactions with 4 NXT fee, and a single guy with 6 NXT, this guy has an advantage. His transaction, the offer, and as many as can fit from the rest will fit in the block.

If everyone thinks this way and submits their offer with a fee of 6 NXT, all will lose, since their transactions will be included in a block before the sell offer.

forkedchain [5:33 PM]

For the latest JLRDA sell offer, there were 4 completely full blocks, each with 233 TXs, and an additional one with 58 TXs. There were 484 unique accounts that sent TXs in those 5 blocks.

2nd batch:

logan [9:01 PM]

vintash [9:08 PM]
im in!!!!

mroenne [9:08 PM]
Finally :sunglasses:

vintash [9:09 PM]

gabriel [9:09 PM]

marenkar [9:10 PM]
Whoa that’s a lot of people who got in this time.

peanut [9:12 PM]
Finally I’m in. I also noticed odd fee sizes, so I used one too just for good luck hehe

eu58 [9:14 PM]
I put 4 NXT for the fee and succeeded!

martis [9:18 PM]
I put 2 scheduled orders and both were filled. Fee was 4.9. No bot, no API, just used “Ignis token sale” link. Previous rounds were unsuccessful for me. As I reached my limit for buying Ignis, I will not participate in other rounds, so more chance for others.

forkedchain [9:53 PM]
I sacrificed a ton of ants just yesterday. ran over a huge ant bed with my mower while cutting grass, AND IT WORKED I GOT SOME JLRDA TODAY!!

logan [10:54 PM]

If i use a node with a comparatively bad connection and you use one which is a few milliseconds faster to publish the Offer TX, the chance that my orders will be filled is nearly zero, isnt it? or at least much worse compared to others

riker [10:55 PM]

Assuming you did everything else right, the more central and well connected your node is you’ll have better chance.

If you are the forger, even better, since then you have no latency.

forkedchain [11:47 PM]

well, it looks like some of my forging pool members were big winners today – all of a sudden my pools forging power has dropped by 5M.

My pool forged the golden block again. I wonder if some pool members had set up my pool as a well-known peer, and that’s why they won.

In lots of my previous attempts, my transaction was in the same block as the SELL, but at an earlier index position in the block. So I didn’t get anything. That means my latency to the forger was really good, but the forger’s latency to the p2p network (network as a whole) whereby that SELL transaction eventually found its way to the forger, was high – its all luck.

Batch 3:

jesus [8:54 AM]

thewiremaster [8:54 AM]
Go! https://nxtportal.org/monitor/

josenxt [8:55 AM]
269 unconfirmed transactions!

peter2615 [8:56 AM]

gabriel [8:58 AM]
LOL, who was complaining about there not begin enough small transactions

mikevanegan [8:58 AM]
Booya worth getting up 2am. 295,000 JLRDA

peter2615 [8:58 AM]

shugo [9:02 AM]
omg I finally got in, 4.9 fee
@all with no luck, dont give up (I almost did…)

vizanto [9:03 AM]
Your JLRDA balance 47,840 !!!!!!!!
this was my 3rd try

yelth [9:07 AM]
this was my 15th 🙁

winiusty [12:07 PM]
Hi guys, I bought while sleeping lol
strange feeling

gabriel [3:20 PM]
only problem is the people who couldn’t get in until now and are frustrated, which is totally understandable, but as time goes by, more and more of these people are getting their orders fulfilled, so it will eventually work out just fine, imo

yelth [3:22 PM]
Potentially, but I can just as easily see there as being huge problems with it later on.

potshot-rsa [3:45 PM]
I got my IGNIS at 2017/08/09 8:59:12. I’m in South Africa with a 4Mb/s ADSL connection.

jesus [3:23 PM]

@yelth, i stopped worrying about it. it´s what it is. every other setup would have been stretched to the limit as well. I can see the jelurida marketing machine start working, that´s my main concern. looking at my ARDR and NXT investment, the ICO is a good thing. if i can´t get in cheap, so be it.

And so…. 1 batch left of Round 2. Join nxtchat.slack to ask questions and take part in the discussion. And if you wonder what all the fuzz is about – oh man. The IGNIS whitepaper, and all ICO details can be found here.

These are the stats from the ICO so far:

Live data from the Nxt blockchain

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Arthur founded NXTER.ORG in December 2013 and started writing Nxt newsletters to the Nxt community.

Managed the development and implementation of Nxt's visual brand in 2014, with web design bureau Ideenfrische.

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Arthur is still one of the driving forces behind Nxter.org. He compiled the acclaimed book about Nxt 'SNAPSHOT', which got published in early 2017.
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