Jelurida Announces New Details About the ICO

Earlier today, Jelurida, the development company behind Nxt and Ardor, has announced new details about the upcoming ICO on their website.

The Jelurida team is now happy to announce that the legal, technical and organizational preparations for the IGNIS ICO are entering their final stage. The ICO will start near the end of July or early August 2017 (exact date and time to be disclosed at least two weeks in advance).

After inquiries into the start date of the ICO have been asked by the community on a daily basis, this should hopefully bring some clarity now on how the rest of Q3 will shape up to be like, even if no exact date has been given yet.

 

NXT in the ICO

As mentioned in our earlier newsletter, Jelurida mentioned that NXT will be used in the ICO and that this was due to technical reasons. Now, with the announcement, we can see why this was chosen.

The token sale itself will be conducted on the Nxt blockchain platform. A “controllable currency” called JLRDA will be issued and offered for sale in several consecutive rounds.

Being a controllable currency, the JLRDA tokens will not be tradeable or transferable between user accounts. The purchased JLRDA currency units will only serve as a proof of ownership and initial IGNIS balance for the Ardor Genesis Snapshot.

Purchasing JLRDA tokens will require NXT, however users will be able to exchange other cryptocurrencies to NXT conveniently within the Nxt wallet using the integrated ShapeShift and Changelly third party exchanges, subject to availability.

For 1 JLRDA token the participants in the ICO will receive 1 IGNIS coin at the time of the Ardor Genesis Snapshot.

So, the IGNIS ICO will utilize the Monetary System feature of the Nxt blockchain, where a controllable currency called JLRDA will represent the IGNIS to be distributed when Ardor launches. Purchasing a controllable currency on Nxt directly requires NXT as the transactions are on the Nxt blockchain itself.

 

Ardor Genesis Snapshot

The announcement also shed some light on the snapshot date for NXT balances where 0.5 IGNIS is given for every NXT an account holds.

As already promised, approximately half of the IGNIS coins will be reserved and distributed automatically to the NXT holders based on their account balances at the time of the Ardor Genesis Snapshot, at 1 NXT = 0.5 IGNIS ratio.

The Ardor Genesis Snapshot will be performed at least two weeks after the end of the last JLRDA sale round.

However, since the exact date of the start of the ICO and the duration of the ICO are still unknown, we can only estimate when the Ardor Genesis snapshot will happen.

 

Important Notice

There have been some complaints on some channels in the community about false information being spread around, such as that the launch was supposed to happen on July 1st, despite multiple announcements for over a year that Q3 was when Ardor would launch, not necessarily July 1st. Because of this confusion, Jelurida was prompted to also state this in their announcement:

IMPORTANT NOTICE:
All official information regarding the IGNIS ICO will be published on this website only. If you receive information from other sources always make sure that it is consistent with this page.

While Nxter Magazine strives to provide the most accurate information, if any conflicting information is found on this website with Jelurida, please trust the content posted on Jelurida’s website as they are the development team and may have made some changes and we just did not get to update our content yet.

Source: https://www.jelurida.com/ico

The Adel ICO is now live

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The long awaited crowd sale of Adelphoi tokens is without a doubt one of the best prepared and promising current Initial Coin Offerings out there, launched with an impressive amount of documentation in the form of several White Papersdetailed project’s proposals, informational videos, and Frequently Asked Questions, all released on the project website, https://adelphoi.ioover the past few months.

ADL

Up for sale are 28,333,333 Adelphoi tokens (ADL) out of 33,333,333 ADL released in this first ICO round (5M is to be allocated to the Adel team). The value of an ADL coin will be calculated at the end of the ICO based on the value of the BTC (and altcoins) collected.

ADL is the cryptocurrency to be used inside the Adel economic ecosystem. Adel members can introduce use cases on any blockchain platform, including Nxt, Ardor, Ethereum, Ethereum Classic, Waves, Lisk, NEM, Stratis, and Byteball, among others. Throughout the deployment stage, returns from projects are redistributed to stakeholders using the ADL coin.

Soon after this ICO ends, participants will be able to trade their ADL. Coordination with centralized exchanges will happen during the ICO, and "the attention brought on by the ICO will be leveraged", says Travin Keith, Adel's marketing consultant. The ADL currency will also be tradeable on the Nxt Asset Exchange right away after it is distributed.

Across three rounds of ICO, a total of 100 million Adelphoi (ADL) will be released to the market.

What is ADEL?

Adel is a blockchain agnostic startup accelerator, powered by Nxt technology and with a global community aimed at developing, supporting and funding innovative startups using blockchain technology.

The Adel ecosystem consists of stakeholders, registered community members, staff, a Project Review Committee, and the Adel Board. Their vision is to create an ecosystem of innovative projects where members can participate in submitting ideas, building business plans, and successfully deploying projects. Adel offers a decentralized alternative to traditional seed funding and angel investments by combining social media with venture capital.

Startups will be decided by the Adel community after a review by the Adel Board and the Adel Project Review Committee. Successful ventures will be developed and issued as rewards to Adel’s stakeholders and backed by a future legal entity that will establish the Adelshare (ADS) equity token.

After the first ICO phase, Adel will introduce the Adelshare (ADS), a token which will represent a member’s equity stake in Adel projects. Participants can buy these shares using their Adelphoi (ADL).

Organisation

The Adel Board is:

Jan Lamser - Legal & Operations
Gabriel DusilMarketing & Strategy
Michal Vavrek - Research & Development (R&D)

Jan Lamser, Co-founder and Board member, states:

The role of the Adel Board, alongside the Project Review Committee, is guiding and curating the activities of the community and ensuring a unique and regulated environment for fundraising and investment. Our incubator structure provides both financing and management expertise from blockchain and business experts around the world.

Soon after the end of this 1st ICO round, the members of ADEL’s Project Review Committee (PRC) will be announced. The PRC will guide and help the Adel R&D team and innovators, evaluate and approve projects, as well as participate on forums to discuss the projects with the community. 

Adel will comply with legal requirements relating to cryptocurrency exchange, governance, trading, and taxes. Adel will ensure regulatory compliance and the satisfaction of legal requirements in all markets where Adel operate. Therefore, any projects that do not meet these requirements will not be approved. This ensures the integrity of the Adel ecosystem while also protecting the integrity of each member in the community. 

Use of the ICO funds

30% will be allocated for Adel operations.
70% will be used to fund projects launched on Adel.

ICO

Bonuses

The bonus refers to the amount of ADL the participant in the Adelphoi ICO will receive:

20% bonus

▲  First 3 days  ▲
12:00 (noon) UTC on May 1st till 23:59 UTC on May 3rd


15% bonus

Next seven days
 00:00 UTC on May 4th till 23:59 UTC on May 10th


10% bonus

Next seven days
 00:00 UTC on May 11 th till 23:59 UTC on May 17th


5% bonus

Next seven days
 00:00 UTC on May 18th till 23:59 UTC on May 24th


0% bonus

 Last seven days
 00:00 UTC on May 25th till 23:59 UTC on May 31st


The 1 BTC threshold

Only members who have contributed over 1 BTC will be invited to the community, and only those in the community will be able to purchase Adel company shares (ADS), once the legal entity and license are established.

After the first (ongoing) ICO the minimum to join the community will be increased to 2 BTC (in equivalent ADL).


Carry-over Bonus

With the exception of the first three days’ bonus, which entitles a carry-over bonus of only 15%, participants maintain the same bonus if they decide to increase their contribution in the following weeks of the ICO, provided the sum of their initial contributions in a given stage is over 1 BTC.

Participants contributing over 20 BTC will receive a bonus of 15% no matter when they submitted their first contribution.


Escrow

During the ICO round, the raised cryptocurrency is immediately placed into the 5 out of 6 multi-signature escrow account provided by BitGo.

30% of the BTC escrow funds will be released shortly after the ICO (1st of June 2017) to Adel Ecosystem Limited to continue paying developers, legal services, and support costs.

The remaining 70% of the BTC escrow funds will be released to Adel Ecosystem Limited after the investment structure of Adel’s second phase is established.


If Adel Ecosystem Limited does not raise over 900 BTC in the first ICO round (the minimum threshold), then community members will vote if Adel continues or if the remaining funds are returned to the ICO participants.

Janus news summary

The Janus project team has been dropping hints and updates in their Slack channel, as well as announced some significant changes for the Janus project, which are going to be implemented.

Here's a summary, to Janus holders but also to those who still hold back from investing in Janus.

Burn Janus, Burn!

22,500,000,000 Janus tokens were issued on 5-Aug-2016, 06:31 pm.
There was an ICO. Then there was an NXT token sale. And community building.

On April 13, Bjorn writes:

We will reduce total Janus in existence to 25,201,489 JNS.

5 Million of that will be kept on the main Janus account (they receive none of the dividends, therefore do not detract).

2.5 million for our team's holdings, 2.5 million for community efforts/bounties in the future and the like, 2 million will go to the final JanusXT holder when he/she comes to us.

This leaves 16,201,489 in circulation, assuming none of the JanusXT holders leave the project.

When the 2nd distribution of Janus tokens on c-cex.com and on the Nxt AE have been sold out, NO MORE tokens will be sold by the Janus Team.

July 3rd is the end date of the 2nd distribution, plus the last chance to support the Janus team directly. Remember that any buy from the team is an investment in the team's work, which aims to make your investment worth.

bjorn_bb:

After July 3rd the market will be fighting each other for tokens.

We decided this is best to carry all who are in since December until this July with us. Then after latecomers will have to pay more premium. By premium I mean they gonna be buying it from you all.

However sells could get ever scarce as the passive income becomes the level we want, and I plan to add Janus as a payment option to 2 sites for a continuous buy up driver. The key is making a discount enough to take the time to buy and use it as payment. If a service on social trading site is 400 USD for example a 25% discount paid via Janus tokens should motivate. This then feeds us tokens, causes market push, and should in theory drive volume.

 

New sites, better Dividends

Janus holders can expect an addition to the monthly NXT profit share from the BetterBets.io Casino, “people who aren’t a fan of dice may really like this one,” bjorn_bb writes.

Janus holders will get 90% of the NXT profit.

  • A new blockchain based business site will launch soon after;

This is an unexpected evolvement, and the new site's going to add an extra revenue stream to Janus and JanusXT holders. 10% to Janus holders, 10% to JanusXT holders, 10% to the "outside developers" for helping push the site + also helping Janus, and 70% to the Janus Team.

  • In May, a new site will be added to the JanusXT holders' portfolio of income sources

This site will easily be replicated to many areas of pop culture. And yup, it's just one of the advantages of being an XT holder.

Janus XT

Want to get JanusXT?

 

New team member

A new and influential member has joined the Janus team. Who this person is, will be announced soon. His work will begin with the launch of the social trading site.

Bjorn writes:

His job won't be like ours, he may work 20 hours a month but what he can provide is priceless. I am proud of what I can do, but he can open doors that are impossible for even top marketers. It's hard for a new guy to come into a team working together for so long, but he's everything I realized when we met last summer. I just didn't think he would be interested in joining until January. 30+ years of experience in numerous fields and industry very few have direct access to.

We are coordinating with the Nxt Foundation to get his identity verified for you (I assume you all trust their word by now). Once that's done we can roll out the QA with him on a yet to be determined medium, end of the month.

His passport has been sent to the Nxt Foundation who will talk with him and confirm his identity. When the QA comes there will be no doubts about his authenticity and we will see why this verification process was important. "So that we aren't making some crazy claims", writes Bjorn.

The social trading site

Bjorn has revealed the name of the future site: www.trademimic.com

Janus' aims to hit the mainstream with this site, which will soon be beta-released and tested inside the community, then soft-launched in July.

Bjorn writes:

Trademimic.com is focused on Forex, but as we said in December, it will have altcoin options and Bitcoin. Subscription based. And there will be tiered packages. More options higher price.

We'll finish up with the social trading fintech site by July. Then market like mad. Our new team member's first major assignment will be that site.

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Do not miss a Janus update, join their Slack channel, and follow their social media channels. More Nxt assets can be explored on nxter.org/assethub.

Adel ICO will begin on May 1 – and be legally compliant

Since the public announcement of Adel on December 06, 2o16, the team behind has been working hard informing people about the project, getting mentions in the media, publishing whitepapers, and even shared their first two Project Proposals by the R&D team.

The Adelphoi token ICO was planned to be kicked off on March 1st, but today, in a press release, Adel’s press contact John McLeod broke the news that the Adel R&D Team has chosen to postpone it for 2 months to get time to first establish a proper legal structure for Adel.

This means that Adel may very well become the first legally compliant ICO. Distributed ledger technology is a new and dynamic sector that is evolving quickly. By establishing a limited liability company in the Isle of Man, along with AML/CTF compliance, Adel makes sure that the Adel community can maintain a secure and long-term viable incubator for blockchain technology innovation. Adel Ecosystem Ltd. will be able to protect both members and address future regulatory requirements as they are introduced.

To me, as potential investor, this is good news, worth a 2 months delay.
Others may disagree and can air their counter opinions in the comments field.

But, we all know it. If cryptocurrency technologies and blockchain ICO’s are to ever gain mainstream adoption, there’s no other way but to leave the grey zone behind, legally register, and comply with all regulatory and legal requirements including KYC/AML policies. I wish Adel good luck with that – many eyes will undoubtedly be on them.

I’m also sure that some hardcore anons and privacy advocates will refrain from investing in Adel due to this, and will stick to other more anonymous investment opportunities on the blockchain. For a project like Adel, this is the only right thing to do. Their mission and visions are simply too big to be accomplished in any other way.

Gabriel Dusil, Co-founder and board member of Adel:

Adel’s vision is to create a decentralized, self-regulated and self-sustaining macroeconomic ecosystem for blockchain innovation with a mission to be a global leader in community-based funding. Adel’s value is in the core principles of its ecosystem. This ecosystem promotes the use of blockchain technology, creating innovative solutions for various industries. By leveraging the expertise of the Board, R&D team, and its community members, Adel establishes a supportive and collaborative environment for state-of-the-art projects.

Travin Keith, member of Nxt Foundation, and Marketing Manager of Adel:

Adel is trying to solve the lack of a platform for blockchain projects that doesn’t just help with launching the project with funds, but also provides support and guidance throughout the whole life of a project. Adel also aims to actively engage its community members in the projects and can also connect the projects with VCs for further funding if necessary.

The Adelphoi token will be initially launched on Nxt’s Asset Exchange and it will act as the fuel for proper operation of Adel. Adel will work with other blockchain solutions as well if they are needed for the projects.


Adel Press Announcement

Adel establishes LLC in the Isle of Man

  • Adel establishes a transparent legal structure
  • One of the first ICOs to comply with Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing legislation (AML/CTF)
  • Preparation of the new legal structure will delay the ICO to 1st May

Adel, a community-powered startup incubator focusing on blockchain technology, (https://www.adelphoi.io/) has decided to create a separate limited liability company called Adel Ecosystem Ltd. in the Isle of Man in order to establish a clear legal structure for Adel Services and the Adel community. The decision was made to set up a clear legal and tax regime in connection with crowdfunding that will fuel blockchain innovation.

The new legal entity will be registered as a designated business with the Isle of Man Financial Services Authority. As such, the entity will follow AML/CTF rules stemming from the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering the Financing of Terrorism Code 2015. Part of its compliance will include the implementation of customer due diligence, also known as the Know Your Customer (KYC) process. Therefore, participants in crowdfunding will have their contributions protected from any fraudulent activities by anonymous investors.

Gabriel Dusil, Co-Founder and Board member at Adel: We are very excited to be the first ICO to comply with Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing regulations. As distributed ledger technology becomes more accepted by mainstream investors, we hope the legal structure and protection offered by Adel will act as a template for future ICOs. It is our top priority to protect the contributions of our members, protect our staff, and establish a strong brand.

Gabriel further adds: These are positive steps towards maintaining a long-term and stable incubator for blockchain technology, and for legitimizing our ecosystem. Our stance on regulatory compliance will also open our ICO to a much wider audience of interested contributors.

Media Contact:

John McLeod
Founder, JEA Associates Ltd
Tel: +44 7886920436

jeaassociates.com/

▲ Adel is a global cryptocurrency community that is self-regulated, self-sustained, and offers its own economic ecosystem as a community-powered startup incubator via the Adelphoi token. Our community focuses on creating, developing, and implementing use cases involving blockchain technology that covers a wide range of digital and physical industries.

▲ Creating Opportunities for Blockchain Innovation.

[ICO] Janus on the Nxt AE

Janus Token Distribution 1

Jan 5th – March 4th, 2017

Name: Janus

Token asset ID:
4348103880042995903

10,500,000 Janus (JNS) are available

Price is set to 1.5 NXT per 1 Janus token

Janustoken is now trading !

As announced earlier today, the original Janustoken ICO has been cancelled and investors will get their money back. Instead, a round of Janustokens have now been set for sale on the Nxt Asset Exchange. – “The pace of the original sale was not going to reach the 3500 BTC that was required to allow for such high revenue dividends, therefore we took a decisive course to allow investment directly on the Nxt Asset Exchange instead”, explains Bjorn, Janus Team’s marketing director.

You can purchase tokens right now in your NXT wallets on the asset exchange. 10,500,000 Janus (JNS) have been released, and the Janus Team will release another 10,500,000 Janus (JNS) every 4 months. 31,500,000 yearly.

The price per Janus will be changed for each distribution (every 4 months) no matter what current price it’s trading at, Janus will be posted 50-100% higher. The team will perform unscheduled buybacks and burns to reduce supply and help appreciate token value.

Under the Knife #1: Janus token

Janus

On November 09, 2016, 11:57:13 pm, Janus joined in the Nxt and BTC sphere by announcing their ICO on Nxtforum and Bitcointalk.org. Up for sale were Janustokens, which are tokens that will represent revenue shares in Janus, a (soon to be legally registered) software and services company which plans on launching multiple businesses. The industries targeted are done so specifically for maximum revenue with the lowest market share.

The Janus project is being launched by veteran blockchain enthusiasts with the aim of bootstrapping a number of initiatives under the umbrella of a parent company. As with any business, the goal of these initiatives is to become profitable and pay investors regular profit shares which exceed market rates of return on invested capital.

Our vision is to create a software and services company which utilizes a common technology platform to rapidly implement distinctly branded projects targeting a number of carefully selected markets. We believe that this approach will allow us to decrease development costs and increase product quality which will enable us to establish successful businesses and generate substantial profits which will then be shared with the Janus token holders.

From the Janus whitepaper

The janustoken.com site takes investments paid with BTC, NXT, and most altcoins (via Shapeshift). The tokens are issued on the Nxt blockchain and will be distributed to investors after the ICO. Dividends will be sent to investors via the well-tested Nxt dividend mechanism, in BTC, and directly into each investor’s BTC wallets.

The countdown, profit sharing plan, roadmap, time line, and income generation business model, can all be found on the website and in the Janus white paper. Nxt Foundation acts as escrow, investors which contribute and hold the equivalent of more than 50BTC Janus tokens, will receive a seat on a Janus ‘Advisory Board’.

What can actually go wrong?

Nxt and the cryptocurrency scene have seen many sellers jump into our forums, promising “moon” and good ROI, and, I’m sorry to say, but we have a damn good reason to be reluctant. We’ve been victims of numerous scams. We’ve funded some of those good pitches and seen our money vanish.

Under the knife

Janus coming out of the blue like a ninja, suddenly being all over the place, pitching, praising Nxt, posting walls of text and asking for funding, but without revealing much detail about their business models, could be either backed by relevant enthusiasm, good marketing, and natural protectionism of their unique business ideas, but on the other hand, it could also turn out to be nothing but “used car seller” tricks.

That’s what I told Bjorn, the Director of Marketing of Janus, when I contacted him on nxtchat.slack, in their #janustoken channel, and proposed this interview, my first in a series of asset issuer interrogations. Bjorn agreed to do the interview and, after reading the questions, decided to let lobos, Janus’ director of technology, Robert Gasch, join in the conversation as well.

Here’s the result.

ae-knifed

Q & A

Anonymous

Q: Bjorn, you have chosen to be anonymous. Why?

Bjorn: Due to current employment and the country I live in, I’ll be anonymous until Q2 2017.

I gave my passport to the Nxt Foundation though, that’s not a public fact but I’ll tell you that its encrypted and they have it.

Q: Who did you send it to?

Bjorn: evildave

Ad1: Dave Pearce, Nxt Foundation Board Member, has confirmed to me that he received a passport scan from Bjorn. I quote: “I can’t guarantee with 100% accuracy that it’s genuine, obviously, but we have also checked and confirmed the IDs of Robert and Luis, and they are genuine. Robert and Luis both know Bjorn in real life, so if something goes wrong, they will also be able to track Bjorn down.” 

Q: You’ve promised anonymity to tokenholders, yet Janus will become a registered company in Q1 2017, according to your roadmap. You have sought advice from “some legal experts”, you say, but “the finer details are still to be investigated”.

Why would any government allow you to pay out dividends to anons?

Bjorn: As a company most governments would not. To cover the majority of countries we are proposing to handle this in a way to reduce the generally imposed KYC that a company direct profit sharing would demand. For Janus token holders, the net profit will be distributed by one of the company co-owners as an individual and not as the company itself to allow those receiving profit sharing to retain anonymity.

Lobos: After deliberation with the lawyers we asked, we would lean towards the option of transferring the profits which are to be paid out to a company executive who would then distribute them using blockchain technology, as a person. This would sidestep the issue of the company directly performing this profit distribution but also shift legal responsibility to the designated executive. (the last word on this subject has not been spoken yet; it turns out that this is a much more complicated question than we originally anticipated which also depends on the jurisdiction in which the company is formed).

Q: You are working in the grey zone, I guess we can agree on that. What happens if regulations kick in?

Lobos: If and when regulations kick in which make the above proposed (and any other reasonable) method impossible, we would at this point lean towards a buyback program.

Q: A scenario could be that you would have to ask asset holders to give you their personal information. Message tokenholders via the blockchain and give them the choice to either hand over their personal details to you or sell their tokens (buyback option/sell on market). Then re-issue the Janustoken, on an Ardor KYC child chain in Q3 (if available by then) and distribute this new token to those who registered.

Bjorn: If this becomes an available choice, and doesn’t impede the distribution of profit sharing it can be altered to accommodate KYC, yes. The buyback could very well be the easiest route in the event of severe legal implications.

lobos: As a matter of fact, we believe that a buyback could be structured in such a way that it would take the place of the profit sharing.

Q: The thing here is, it’s not only your ability to launch grow and run a business we have to trust with our money. It’s a promise that you can run a registered business and we can be anonymous investors. Would you close the business or ask us to provide our personal info if forced to make the choice?

Bjorn: We would find an alternate method, more than likely what was proposed above and allow buyback options for Janus holders. There is always a way to protect users as long as everyone is willing to take the extra steps with us to do so.

Backstory: Betterbets.io

betterbets-site

Q: I have sent a message to Luis and Robert on LinkedIn, asking them to confirm that they’re related to Janustoken and BetterBets.io, because they don’t mention it on their LinkedIn CV’s. Also, BetterBets’s “About Us” page does not mention any of you. Can you prove that the betterbets site is yours? In some cases, when new asset issuers have wanted to provide proof of their identity, they’ve made a small change to their existing website, for example the “About Us”-page. Could you do that?

Bjorn: Yes we can. (it’s now added as of 5 minutes ago) Bottom right of the BetterBets.io landing page links directly to the Janus sale site and we have added this to the BetterBets about us page as you suggested.

Ad2: I have received a DM from Robert and Luis via LinkedIn and they confirm their active involvement with BetterBets and the Janus project. 

Q: You’ve said that BetterBets is in the top 5 of BTC dice/casino sites. When googling betterbets, I haven’t found you on any top list. I found a 5/5 review though, with a referral link to your site.

Bjorn: The google search would reveal paid ratings sites, we go by verifiable volume which is done by third parties such as www.dicesites.com. This site is and has been for years a true bitcoiner’s source for real casino data and provably fair thats been tested by the industry leaders who invented the methods used to calculate the provably fair methods used today. It’s an unpaid source and created by forum user NLnico who has been a long time community member to uphold security and proper business practices. He’s even done security work for Bitcointalk owner Theymos so this is not taken lightly when he approves a site for admission. The true top 5 sites changes often, one week we are #2 the next #7, the next #3 the next #10. This does vary but strictly averaged BetterBets is top 5.

Lobos: If you factor the volume we processed on Bettebets (68k BTC) and take into account the fact that we only launched approx. 18 months ago, you will see that we have been quite successful when compared to some of the casinos which have been around for years.

Q: Please elaborate on your success. You’ve moved around 47M dollars?

Bjorn: This is correct at this date BetterBets has achieved : 68806.33 BTC in betting volume since opening in May 2015. This site (thebitcoinstrip.com) isn’t completely current but gives some backstory as well.

Q: You’ve said that betterbets is a model of how the Janus project(s) will work (Janus will be a conglomerate of course, so there will be multiple companies, not just one, earning profits to Janus investors). Relevant to this (and to back you with trust), you’ve brought some of BetterBet’s early investors into the Nxtchat.slack.

Bjorn: The stakeholder program we created was actually 40 total spots not 20 (I may have misspoke in chat) and investors were able to purchase each spot for 5 BTC apiece (200 BTC total). One group close to us purchased half (20 spots) to secure their portion of the revenue from BetterBets. This investment and profit sharing will end in Q1 2018 as we have stated to all stakeholders.

Q: In the crypto investment space we’re used to new people dumping into IPO and ICO threads. They come with no backstory, yet they are all happy to buy into the project. Wouldn’t miss this opportunity for anything in the world. In other words, they are sockpuppets, accounts created to pump the ICO.

I’m not saying that @merk, @ropes, @kushed, @l3gionario, @bitcoinpot and others are sock puppets. But noone cares to ask them any questions. Why? Look at this:

You write that your investment offering to betterbets investors was minimum 5 BTC per slot, 20 slots in all. They sold out in 6 weeks.

bjorn_bb [9:37 PM]
now they are here and investing in Janus haha
it’s been a positive experience”

bitcoinpot [12:26 PM]
Hey there everybody, am here thanks to Janus team …being one of their stakeholders at BetterBets.io project consider myself lucky for having the opportunity to fill one of their stakeholders position avaliable already received back ( always on time – 1 day of the month) more than 50% of my initial investiment after 7 months of dividend sand I have still 17 months ahead

Q: Taking your word for it, 200 BTC was invested in betterbets within 6 weeks and everyone is on track to a full ROI in 4-6 months. Now, today with 1 day left of the 8% early investor bonus period for Janus, a total of 16.8 BTC has been raised, including NXT investments and new BTC investors.

I can ask the aliases in Nxtchat why they haven’t invested (more?) yet, but do you have thoughts about this issue yourself?

Bjorn: The only thing I can think of as to why some have not invested is really because we didn’t push investment into Janus on them, we showed them the details, the project and gave them insight as to what was coming but I didn’t direct sell it to any of them. My goal was to see if they had interest based on what we made public and decide for themselves. If I were to speculate I’d say some may not be in a position financially to invest, or are waiting until further into the token sale. Some previous stakeholders have invested. One is currently the largest investor in Janus up to this date. It’s impossible though to state exactly why, however, some of them are very busy or private and rarely even make contact as we have run a tight investment, and they probably never feel the need to enter the private slack we made available to them.

Lobos: Some of our investors are quite private and hardly communicate with us. I think the general feeling for Janus is that a lot of people are sitting on the fence waiting to see how it develops (less in terms of the token sale itself, but with regards to how we are able to communicate the story and whether we are able to hold up to the scrutiny which has been coming out way). Also, with the token sale having a set time limit (and for now not being in any danger of being sold out) there is no rush for them to dive in. From a personal perspective, I can say that I’ve never been a fan of diving into an ICO early on).

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Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1677509.msg17008011#msg17008011

Nxt vs BTC dividends

UPDATED: Due to a recent change of plans in Janus’ ICO and token distribution method (as announced on December 5th, 2016) some of the Q & A’s below are outdated. I have striked out the irrelevant parts.

TL;DR: Keep your Janus tokens in a local Nxt account at the time dividends are sent. Dividends will (for now) be paid in NXT. You can read more about this and get the latest Janus insights here

Q: The Janus token is issued on the Nxt Asset Exchange (AE) and you will use the dividend mechanism for distribution of BTC (not SuperBTC) to BTC accounts. Can you elaborate on this?

Bjorn: Janus exists on Nxt as a token and will be publicly traded on both the AE and traditional centralized exchanges. We have contacts in some exchanges and hope more will become available in time to allow greater platform trading. The method for receiving profit sharing will actually be executed outside the dividends feature, we will convert the Janus token site to allow all Janus holders present and future to create an account then input a BTC and their Janus/Nxt account addresses to receive their portion of profit sharing. It will be a simple verification of their Janus balance then sending BTC to the address users provide based on Janus amount owned. 

Q: Have to wrap my head around this; so only tokens which are held in a local Nxt wallet at the time of the verification snapshots and which have also been registered on the Janus site (to connect the Nxt account ID with a BTC address), will receive dividends. Token holders with Janus tokens on central exchanges (and Janus tokens bought on the Nxt AE but not registered on the Janus website) will not receive dividends. NOTE that the centralised exchanges could register their Janus token Nxt account on your website too and the exchange would receive the dividends.

Bjorn: Correct anyone who chooses to purchase Janus and also wishes to receive dividends needs to register their account on our site and add a receiving BTC address, this does mean that anyone, exchanges included could do this. I have a feeling that in the event we get on larger exchanges they would be willing to credit user accounts the BTC from profit sharing out of fairness. I’m also sure some smaller exchanges would keep it for themselves, unless their users demand they credit traders accounts.

In my humble opinion if profit sharing is significant people will have no issue using this method to reap the rewards of our work.

Q: Would Janus keep the dividends for non-registered token holders or pay all dividends to the registered token holders at the time of the snapshot?

Bjorn: We will pay all dividends out to those registered with Janus account and BTC address at the time of the snapshot.

Q: You’ve mentioned that the Janus token may be incorporated into some of your future sites. Can you elaborate on this?

Bjorn: One method to incorporate Janus on some of our sites will be similar to using a rewards model. Without a user having to understand anything technologically about blockchains, it’s very easy to allow ‘reward token’ (which would in fact be Janus tokens) to be used to redeem or send to other users on specific sites we are launching.

The main focus when our team enables features of this nature is to reduce any of the thinking associated with new technology, the way it will be used may not even indicate that it is a Janus token by name, although the underlying fact is that it will be Janus and using Nxt/Ardor blockchain for accounting.

Final Round: The FUD

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Q: NXT price goes down. Will my Janus tokens lose value?

Bjorn: Our speculative answer is no, Janus derives nearly all its value from our business sites (and announcements of), therefore it is almost independent of any platform in regards to inherent value.

Q: Nxt Foundation gets 5% for acting as escrows. When will they release the funds?

Bjorn: The Nxt Foundation will release funds when all Janus tokens have been credited to the accounts from all participating people in the token sale and all bounties and associated rewards have been paid to participants.

Q: If they release funds after you’ve distributed the tokens to investors, how does this guarantee that you won’t run away with the funds? The AE token cost you 1000 NXT to issue, it would make you a very decent ROI.

Bjorn: We only have our reputations and word to guarantee this, we have a running blockchain based business that people depend on currently to do well, it could be used as leverage were we to run away. Also our core team for Janus 2 of 3 are now public, and Robert is co-owner of everything we do.

Lobos: I have been a professional software developer for 25 years and have worked on quite a number of enterprise-grade and mission critical projects. My work record is impeccable and no matter what happens to the token sale, I intend to emerge with my reputation intact; if for some reason this won’t be the case, it will severely impact my future employment prospects which is not something I am willing to risk.

Q: Nxt is controlled by a dictator doing hardfork attacks all the time. It’s a proven fact. What will you do when Nxt API changes and your services break?

Bjorn: Hypothetical question?

apenzl: FUD.

Bjorn: Our primary goal for all holders of Janus is security and longevity with the means to track users tokens held to deliver proper profit sharing percentages. We will adapt or use any platform necessary to carry this out, Nxt was chosen specifically for it’s secure and proven track record though. Janus will adapt if needed to any threats.

Lobos: One of the reasons we are donating 5% of token sale proceeds is that we wish to help put the Nxt foundation into a position which will enable it to continue the stewardship of the Nxt blockchain and its associated technologies.

Q: It isn’t guaranteed that Ardor will launch. Might be vaporware. Are you going to stick with old Nxt when Ardor doesn’t happen but other fancy fast scalable blockchain 3.0 solutions launch?

Bjorn: The best part of Janus is really the fact that platform choice is more of a convenience than mandatory, profit sharing is delivered in Bitcoin, and using Nxt currently to track Janus tokens per account. If at any point a new method to track distribution of Janus owned is needed, we will make this happen, even if it means launching our own private blockchain. We personally hope this never happens, because one of the great things about Nxt/Ardor is the developers and foundation. They put so much of their time and lives into the Nxt platform, thus allowing groups like the Janus team to focus on the use of their hard work and efforts. Our team believes in using the tools available to achieve success, this is why our focus is on business and not trying to advance a technology that’s already a decade ahead of mainstream adoption.

Lobos: We can only re-iterate that Janus is not a blockchain technology play but a business play. The underlying blockchain technology is actually quite irrelevant to us as long as it is actively maintained and supported. NXT has an impressive track record in this regard which is the primary reason why we chose it as technology base for Janus.

Q: Look at the Waves ICO. No code but pretty pix and promises at the time. It made them 16M USD equivalent. People like GUIs. It’s the same with Komodo. grewal posts screenshots of an easyDEX GUI and the crowd goes wild. Could we ask Janus for something to look at? A screenshot of the GUI from one of your promising projects. You plan to launch a business in Q2, you must have something. As long as it doesn’t give away some “secret”, could we have a look?

Bjorn: Yes, and we plan to show at the bare minimum, some of the things our framework for sites to come looks like. Including projects already using some of this in the wild now.

Lobos: Having been a software engineer for 25 years, I can not stand to simply push out code which just happens to work and is a complete mess. As such, one of the things I have done is to develop a framework which allows for a modular codebase and avoids the mess that monolithic codebases tend to become over time. The first public site implementation based upon this framework is actually the Janustoken.com site.

In addition to this, I have developed and own the copyright to code which can be used to implement Realty and eCommerce sites. This code has been implemented over the course of many years and has evolved to handle complex business logic while retaining its flexibility. Unfortunately the code has been written for a legacy architecture and needs to be refactored to properly fit into our new framework, but refactoring a codebase is many times easier than writing one from scratch, especially so if you can preserve the business logic which has evolved over the course of many implementations.

As a final point: over the past three to four years I have mostly been busy working on contract basis, mostly utilizing proprietary frameworks for large-scale customers. I can point to sites such as https://ice.com , http://vulkan.com, https://www.worldshop.eu and many others that I’ve helped implement. The most active site running an ancient version of my realty package is http://www.lrossa.com, a major booking engine for the region of Istra in Croatia.

Ad3: I have checked to my satisfaction that lobos (Robert) has been involved with the development of the sites mentioned above.


JANUS UPDATE:

ICO “CANCELLED” –
JANUS IS TRADING ON THE NXT AE

December 5, 2016

On December 5th, the Janus Team decided to stop the ICO and return all funds raised to their investors. Read details about the refund HERE.

Bjorn_bb writes:

The pace of the original sale was not going to reach 3500 BTC as was required to allow for such high revenue dividends, therefore we took a decisive course to allow investment directly here: https://www.mynxt.info/asset/4348103880042995903

Details:

[ICO] Janus on the Nxt AE

UPDATE 2:

Dividends are being paid monthly, 90% $NXT from BetterBets.io | 10% $ETC from https://etcbets.com, and their planned businesses are being built, the roadmap is being followed.

Latest updates:
https://nxter.org/ae-janus-4348103880042995903

Website: https://janustoken.com/
Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1677509.0


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